Forn Sed

Often known under the name Asatru.

This blog will focus on historical accuracy and reconstructionism but also on the contemporary religion and sometimes wander into other heathenry, like Anglo - Saxon faith, Odinism, Theodism and so on.
There will however never be any bigotry, homophobia, anti Semitism or stupid ideas of a "pure" Germanic race. hello! theme by cissysaurus
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Authentic Viking DNA Retrieved From 1,000-year-old Skeletons

ScienceDaily (May 27, 2008) — Although “Viking” literally means “pirate,” recent research has indicated that the Vikings were also traders to the fishmongers of Europe. Stereotypically, these Norsemen are usually pictured wearing a horned helmet but in a new study,  Jørgen Dissing and colleagues from the University of Copenhagen, investigated what went under the helmet; the scientists were able to extract authentic DNA from ancient Viking skeletons, avoiding many of the problems of contamination faced by past researchers.

Sampling of teeth for aDNA analysis. The last layer of soil was removed and two teeth extracted while wearing full body suit, hairnet, gloves, shoe covers, and face masks. The teeth were placed in sealed sterile tubes and transported to the aDNA-lab. (Credit: Melchior L et al. Evidence of Authentic DNA from Danish Viking Age Skeletons Untouched by Humans for 1,000 Years. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0002214)

Analysis of the Viking DNA showed no evidence of contamination with extraneous DNA, and typing of the endogenous DNA gave reproducible results and showed that these individuals were just as diverse as contemporary humans.

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The Vikings Had Children With Native Americans

Enligt de isländska sagorna kom vikingarna till Nordamerika  DNA-analyser stärker nu den teorin.
Scanpix/Granger


The Vikings brought Native Americans to Iceland  a thousand years ago. Or so says Spanish and Icelandic researchers, who in 80 Icelanders have found a special type of DNA found only in Native Americans and East Asians.

Originally  the researchers considered that this exotic DNA came from Asians, who in modern times have settled in Iceland, but when the researchers examined the 80 Icelanders’ family tree, it turned out that all originate from the same area in southern Iceland, and that their DNA profile is at least 300 years old.

“Iceland was isolated from the rest of the world from the 900s onwards. The most likely explanation is that the genes originated from an Indian woman, brought in from America by the Vikings around the year 1000, “said DNA expert Carles Lalueza-Fox, who has participated in the new

analyzes.

The investigation  responds in historical circles, as researchers long believed that the Vikings came to America 500 years before Columbus.

Original Swedish Article: http://varldenshistoria.se/vikingarna/vikingarna-fick-barn-med-indianer

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Free To Be Stoopid

westernmystery:

I just saw a comment that an atheist is under no obligation to study or understand anything about religion to critisize it unless a theist proves the existence of Deity.

And on that note i will now write a detailed article critisizing Quantumphysics .

I dont know more than any other person about it, but i dont have to until a physicist proves an entire theory.

To use science in a discussion on philosophy is like using chemistry to explain the music of Mozart….

09
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Genetic History of Europe

 



The genetic history of Europe can be inferred from the patterns of genetic diversity across continents and time. The primary data to develop historical scenarios coming from sequences of mitochondrial, Y-chromosome and autosomal DNA from modern populations and if available from ancient DNA. European populations have a complicated demographic and genetic history, including many successive periods of population growth.

Relation between Europeans and other populations

According to Cavalli-Sforza’s work, all non-African populations are more closely related to each other than to Africans; supporting the hypothesis that all non-Africans descend from a single old-African population. The genetic distance from Africa to Europe (16.6) was found to be shorter than the genetic distance from Africa to East Asia (20.6), and much shorter than that from Africa to Australia (24.7). He explains:

…both Africans and Asians contributed to the settlement of Europe, which began about 40,000 years ago. It seems very reasonable to assume that both continents nearest to Europe contributed to its settlement, even if perhaps at different times and maybe repeatedly. It is reassuring that the analysis of other markers also consistently gives the same results in this case. Moreover, a specific evolutionary model tested, i.e., that Europe is formed by contributions from Asia and Africa, fits the distance matrix perfectly (6). In this simplified model, the migrations postulated to have populated Europe are estimated to have occurred at an early date (30,000 years ago), but it is impossible to distinguish, on the basis of these data, this model from that of several migrations at different times. The overall contributions from Asia and Africa were estimated to be around two-thirds and one-third, respectively”.

This particular model used an Out of Africa migration 100,000 years ago which separated Africans from non-Africans followed by a single admixture event 30,000 years ago leading to the formulation of the European population. The admixture event consisted of a source population that was 35% African and 65% East Asian. However the study notes that a more realistic scenario would include several admixture events occurring over a sustained period. In particular they cite the spread of farming from a source population in West Asia 5000–9000 years ago may have played a role in the genetic relatedness of Africans and Europeans since West Asia is sandwiched in between Africa and Central Asia. The model assumed an out of Africa migration 100kya and a single admixture event 30kya. However, most contemporary studies have more recent dates that place the out of Africa migration 50-70kya. The study also involved a direct comparison between Sub-Saharan Africans (Central Africans and Senegalese) and Europeans. North Africans population were omitted from the study as they are known to have both Eurasian and Sub-Saharan admixture. These considerations might help explain the apparent short genetic distance between Europeans and Africans.

A later study by Bauchet, which utilised ~ 10 thousand autosomal DNA SNPs arrived at similar results. Principal component analysis clearly identified four widely dispersed groupings corresponding to Africa, Europe, Central Asia and South Asia. PC1 separated Africans from the other populations, PC2 divided Asians from Europeans and Africans, whilst PC3 split Central Asians apart from South Asians.

♥ http://en.wikipedia.org/wi
 ki/Genetic_history_of_Euro pe ♥

pic ♥ The distribution of the V-13 sub-lineage of haplogroup E1b1b in Europe

09
09

Esoterica: How to be a successfull Atheist

westernmystery:

  • Pretend that the term “religion” actually means something from an anthropological view.
  • Mix science, ontology, epistemology and metaphysics in a jumble in your arguments.
  • Pretend that atheism is somehow connected with science.
  • Pretend that theism always has even a remote likeness from case…
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It is true this map says “predominant”, but it still lumps large groups like Slavs together while it is almost detailed about Germanic groups.It is historical hogwash though.There are no Saxons or Franks today. And if you insist on using those migration period, terms i would not be “Scandinavian” but Gauti (or at least “Norse”).Anyone in Sweden (exept to a part the Saami) sees themselves as ethnical Swedes regardless of tribe.One time period or the other please.
 Oh, and btw: Icelanders are not Scandinavian. If you are thinking of the viking settlers the term is “Norse”, if you are thinking of modern Icelanders the term is “Nordic”.Besides, Icelanders probably has Q Celtic genes too (via Scotland and Ireland).
Many have complained about ending up in the wrong “group” (where i found this map) large parts of northern Italy is really Celto - Germanic as well as Romance for instance..France and Benelux are Celto - Germano _ romance as well.Sicily has Germanic genes (via the Normans and Vandals).The Saami of Scandinavia are far more spread (FAR MORE), Spain and Portugal are put down as Celtic and “near eastern” (what fucking ethnicity is that???) and the Germanic influence of the Visigoths, Suebi and the Vandals are skipped over (you find a lot of Germanic loan words in modern Portuguise), Scotland is put down as “Scots” (The Scoti are actually Gaels = Irish, so technically partly correct), In actuallity the Scottish people are a mix of Gaelic, Pictish, Anglo - Saxon and Norse (Scandinavian, mainly Norwiegian and Danish).The Irish are put down as Irish Celts (???).If you use the terms Scots for Scotland (Scoti = The Roman term for Gael) you should do so for the Irish too.Either Scots OR Gaels OR Q Celtic.In actuality the Irish people are a mix of Gaels, Scandinavian and Romance (via the very “French” Normans) genes.Whole Scottish Clans are of mainly Scandinavian origin MacDonald, MacIver (Ivarson) MacAuley (Olofsson), Gordon, MacLaeod to mention a few.Scots, Doric (Scotland), Ulster Scots and the extinct Norn (Shetland, Orkney) are actually Germanic languages.Gaelic and Manx (Isle of Man) are Q Celtic languages originating in Ireland.Balts (???) as Slavic? Ever heard of Estonians. Estonians are Finnic not Slavic.ALL of northern Africa is put down as Berber??? . There are other large groups, Semitic and Copts  for instance. Sarmatian being another.Russians are put down as distinct from Slavs witch is not incorrect in a sense. Russia probably got it´s name from Germanic peoples (mainly from Sweden according to theory) and as a country has many etnicities like Saami and other Finnic groups.True, the confusing and rather scetchy colour field indicate Uralo - Finnic in the north and and Slavo - Germanic in a little clique but it is so simplified that it´s almost comical to anyone with a bit of a historic interest.Then we have the problem with the term “ethnic”. Are we talking “blood?”If so you can take any area of Europe and probably find a mix of Germanic, Celtic, Slavic and Romance genes AND culture.I can prove that there where Arabs in Scandinavia (at least Denmark), being a part of society and sharing the (“heathen”) religion during the iron age.I can prove (we are talking DNA, Strontium, anthropology, and archeology in general here.) that people travelled all the way from the Alps to eastern England in Neolithic times (stone age).A normal Englishman most probably have Brythonic (P Celtic), Romance (Romans and later Normans, even if they where mainly Germanic), Anglo - Saxon and Scandinavian genes.If we go by culture or linguistics the same mix applies.And then ALL of these groups are in turn mixed up the same way.Germanic and Celtic groups interacted so much that they where sometimes undistinguishable to the Romans (and some tribes still are).The terms Germani and Keltoi where of Roman and Greek origin anyway (speaking of lumping together).Groups like the Ostrogoths interacted the same way with Slavic tribes.And then we have other ways of ethnic identification, like religion.If “Christian” was the ethnic group with witch a viking identified himself, and “Asatru” (in lack of a better term) the way another viking in the same area identified (witch was in a sense sometimes the case at the start of the high middle ages in Scandinavia), they would have “Norse” as an ethnicity in common but still see themselves as religously (and thus to a part culturally)  different ethnicities.Serious anthropology and ethnology can never make a simple map or diagram describing something as complex as mans sense of “group” or belonging through history and pre history since the dawn of mankind.My father is African, still both he and i consider me Germanic, Scandinavian (and Gautish to be extreme. That is i am of the Gauti / Götar tribe).He counts himself as Creole. However, part of the mix that makes him Creole is Portuguise and Spanish (thus probably including Sephardic Jews, Moorish blood….oh, and he has some Chinese).Funny though, the Suebi where in nothern Portugal, the Vissigoths where all over Spain and Portugal and the Vandals passed too.So he would (possably, actually probably) have several strains of Germanic genes (as well as Romance, Carthagian, Celtic) witch might even bring us back to Sweden (some theories says that the Vandals and Goths came from Sweden and most accept that the “Germanic”  peoples as a distinguishable group originated in southern Sweden ,Scania, and Denmark anyway (proto Germanic, around 500 BC).Sorry! I´m simply far to interested in European history / ethnology / anthropology  / archeology to have it simplified into some romantic doodle.